Science is competitive, and we want it to be. Competition drives people to work hard, to not sort of take their time coming up with an answer if they could do it more quickly, but you wanna steer that in a way that’s productive and not that it is destructive, and that is part of the challenge of running large team efforts. I have been very fortunate to have the chance to lead some of these large teams, the Human Genome Project, 2,400 scientists in 6 countries, and some very competitive folks and some pretty significant egos all needing to work together because the shared goal was so important. And we had moments where things got a little bumpy, and I had to take people to the woodshed and say, “You know, you can’t behave that way because we’re all part of this now, and you just can’t have it your own way because you are used to that.” The woodshed talk is, “Hey, things are a little rough right now. I can tell you’re not totally happy with the way things are going. Can we just talk about what the overall goal was and how this current conflict fits into that and might be resolved? And let’s remind ourselves about why we’re all doing this.” Get the big picture, and then you start to drill down, and then you get into the specific and basically have a conversation about how none of us can succeed unless all of us succeed. And it is not gonna work to have any kind of attitude about, “Well, I’m only gonna win if that person loses.” No, we’re on the same team now. We all have to win. Those aren’t always easy conversations. They don’t always work the first time, but over time it seems to have been pretty successful.