I went over to see Dr. Stakman, who I had only met once about three weeks before the end of the term, when I saw that this Dr. Stakman, a world famous plant pathologist, was giving a lecture on these shifty little enemies, the fungi — rust fungi — that destroy our crops. So I went to hear this, and he was one of the old storied professors. He’d move into a history of background of parasiticum, of the rust fungi, other fungi that were dangerous from the standpoint of our cereal crop, and I was fascinated. And I said as I left that room in mid-December of 1937, “If I ever have a chance to study in graduate school, I want to study under a person like this.”