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Barry Scheck

Co-Founder, Innocence Project

Barry Scheck: I take great pride in the fact that we have a whole movement of people that are working on these cases, obviously, to get innocent people out of prison, and identify those who really committed the crime. But most importantly, it is a movement of criminal justice reform. And that we have made a big difference, I hope, in the system. We have prosecutors forming what we call "conviction integrity" units to try to look at miscarriages of justice and work cooperatively with defense lawyers to change the results. We are really trying to make some fundamental changes in the way the criminal justice system operates. And a lot of it is involving greater scientific approach to these problems. But also a lot of it has to do with bringing people back to key and fundamental ideas of justice. Because I think that properly understood, that's what we are all about in this system. The prosecutor is not just about winning cases, we hope, but about making sure that the results are right, and we have to figure out ways to give them space to correct mistakes. And whether it's the defense lawyer, or the prosecutor, or a judge in the system, we have to do a lot better at policing ourselves. And when there is misconduct, we really have to hold people accountable, and we really haven't been doing that adequately in this system.
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Barry Scheck

Co-Founder, Innocence Project

Barry Scheck: Frankly, you just have to believe in what you are doing, and understand that you are playing by the rules, and you are doing the job that the system requires you to do. I never had any qualms about that. We were brought in to do what we had to do in the Simpson case. Frankly, in the issues that we were litigating, even our adversaries recognized in the end that we were right about them. But look, if you don't -- I teach this all the time to law students -- if you want to have a criminal justice system where people's rights are defended, it is just a fact of life that the state has to be held to its proof. It is part of our system that we want to protect the innocent from being wrongfully convicted, and there will be some people that are guilty that escape, because the state doesn't have the proof to demonstrate that they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Barry Scheck

Co-Founder, Innocence Project

Barry Scheck: Well, the state screws up the evidence all the time, but the defense does too. Which is another great tragedy, that inadequate defense lawyers cause miscarriages of justice as well. But the bottom line, in terms of personal morality, it's role-defined. I have never had a problem being a criminal defense lawyer. I think it's liberty's last champion. If you care about liberty, and you care about a democracy and you care about it functioning properly -- particularly for those who are the most despised -- you want a good defense lawyer, because it's the good defense lawyer that keeps the system honest, and keeps it running properly, and prevents miscarriages of justice. And you have to have the guts to do it. So I think it's a noble calling. It's a hard job, but we really are liberty's last champions. I have no doubt about it. But you know, the funny thing is, a lot of my colleagues, they said, "Well, you ceased being a defense lawyer a long time ago. You're just getting innocent people out of jail and then suing on their behalf. That's easy to do." I mean, not easy, but I don't sit around saying, "Oh gee, am I doing the wrong thing?" at night. I feel pretty good about what we do.
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Fritz Scholder

Native American Artist

You have to try to keep your art pure. And not go into advertising, not go into commercial art, because that's a whole different deal. A fine artist must do exactly what he wants to do, with no pressure. Whether it's from your parents, your girlfriend, your wife, you must block all that out. Fine art, if it's the highest form of human expression, means self-integrity. And when you're in that studio, you must do whatever you do completely for yourself. And you must be your own worst critic. Which means that after you've done it, you must live with it, decide if it should leave the studio. Often I destroy the work, either at the moment, or right after I've done it, or days later, or years later. I still will go in the studio at night and destroy paintings, because they're mine.
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Robert Schuller

Crystal Cathedral

They say great preachers only have one sermon. That's all they have. It's true for Billy Graham, it's true for Norman Peale, it's true for Robert Schuller. Also, there's a profound teaching: You can tell what a preacher's personal sins are, by what he preaches against all the time. I preach against people who treat others with indignity, I preach against people who insult people, I preach against people who embarrass people. I preach against those who peddle guilt and shame.
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Robert Schuller

Crystal Cathedral

So the building, instead of being seven million, it was 20 million. I said to President Carter, whom I respect and love, I said, "I'll take the blame for the first 10 million, but the second 10 million is our country's fault." Inflation -- 30 percent of 10 million -- boosted it to 13, and then 30 percent, you're up to 16 million, so we went to 20. Not my fault. And, I had taken the first million dollars from a man, and promised I'd build the building. If you take cash from somebody, you have to deliver, or you're ruined for life as a person with no integrity, no character.
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